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Barry Hoban – Thoughts on Ghent-Wevelgem 2012, and more!

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“His failure earlier this month to finish Milan-San Remo, which in our first interview he extolled as one of his targets for 2012, was accentuated by the disappointment of not winning the Ghent-Wevelgem classic last Sunday.

“As in Milan-San Remo, his team could not keep pace and deliver him into position for the sprint.”

The words of Donald McRae in today’s Guardian on my current number one rant topic – Cav.

I’m glad that Donald explained that thing about the team letting Cav down – and there was me thinking he got dropped.

Barry Hoban
Cav at the start.

I received a message from a friend in Gent, today – here’s what he said;

“I saw Cavendish in Deinze on Sunday morning.

“Sorry to say, the deep suntan in late March is the only thing that makes him look like a pro at the moment.

“His face has filled out, the stomach is bigger; he rode around the streets warming up in an old-school peaked cap, with the peak up.

“At the moment he looks like a tourist.  He cannot get over the climbs, period.

“Whichever path ‘Cav’ takes is up to him and the Big Cheese that is Dave Brailsford.  But the fact remains, as is crystal clear in your article that he’s carrying too much weight and this is what is holding him back.

“The problem is if you attack ‘Cav’, ‘Wiggo’ or anybody in the Sky camp you are immediately branded an outcast by British cycling fans.”

Barry Hoban
Cav rocks up to the start of Gent-Wevelgem in a retro-stylee.

After Ghent-Wevelgem, I gave Barry Hoban a call – just to see what he thought about Cav’s recent form and to ask his opinion on some of the issues of the moment.

Barry Hoban
Barry Hoban.

Here’s what Barry had to say;

Cav was ‘blown out’ on La Manie in Milan-Sanremo, this year – but how did he win the race, three years ago, Barry?

“I think he’s over weight, Boonen and Goss got over the climbs in Milan-Sanremo – a kilo on a climb like La Manie is a huge amount.

“Look at horse racing; if you handicap a horse even one pound, it makes a difference.

“I think he was fitter when he won the race; look at his legs, there’s very little definition.

“Professional cyclists are quick learners, when they see Cavendish in trouble the pressure goes on, they want rid of him, he’s an amazing sprinter so there’s no way they’re taking him to the finish in arm chair.

“But I think that even if he got back, he’d have gone again on the Cipressa.”

On the subject of the Primavera – they’re talking about changing the percorso; do you think that’s necessary?

“Originally there was no Poggio – when I first rode it was there no Cipressa.

“But this meant that a Spanish sprinter like Poblet could win it – it’s not supposed to be for the pure sprinters, it meant to be for the classy hard men.

“So they added the Cipressa and then they added La Manie to make it tougher still, because the organisers don’t want it to end in a sprint each year, they want it to split.

“It only just split this year so they’ll want to make it that little bit harder.

“Nowadays, you have many more riders at a higher level than you ever had before so it gets harder and harder to separate them.”

Gent-Wevelgem – how far was it when you won in 1974?

“It was 244 kilometres, this year was 234.

“When we rode, there were three climbs of the Kemmel, not two, like this year.

“If there had only been two ascents back then, Patrick Sercu would have won it every year.

“It was always that last time up where he would get into difficulty.

“The Kemmel came with around 40 K to go – that might make you think that there was an opportunity for it to come back together.

“But nobody told Merckx, De Vlaeminck, Verbeeck and Godefroot about that – they didn’t hang around to wait!

“On the long straight roads after the Kemmel the echelons would form, guys would crack and the gaps would appear.”

Barry Hoban
Barry winning in Wevelgem in ’74. Image©Cycling Weekly.

Cav said that the damage was done over the top – he was around 30th wheel, someone lost the wheel and that was that.

“If you’re 30th wheel off the Kemmel then you’re as good as off the back.

You have to be able to see the leaders when you come off the top.”

But how can he win at Kuurne, then get dropped in Ghent-Wevelgem?

“There’s a hell of a difference; Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne is only 200 K and it’s much earlier in the year.

“The big riders are just beginning to get into thinking about the Classics – the big tune ups are Paris-Nice and Tirreno-Adriatico.

“You have the races in Qatar and Oman but the serious preparation races are Paris-Nice and Tirreno.

“Another factor is that Het Nieuwsblad is the day before Kuurne and many of the big names have raced hard there.”

What about the weight issue; Marc Sergeant and Patrick Lefevre said on Belgian TV that they think he’s two kilos over weight?

“I heard that Cav is 70 kilos, I was quite a bit taller than him at 5’11” and that was my racing weight.

“One kilo is the straw which can break the camel’s back – and two kilos is a lot on the longer climbs.

“I used to do much of my training in the Flemish Ardennes – I’ve trained on all of the hills which appear in the Cobbled Classics and used to use them as markers.

“I’d have set start points and attack them as if I was racing.

“But I used to find that until I reached racing weight, I couldn’t drive all the way to the prime lines – I’d crack maybe 30 metres before.”

De Panne, how critical is it to Flanders success?

“This time period is crucial; you must maintain momentum, if you have form then you have to keep it – and you can’t put on any weight.

“You have to race, not necessarily race to win, but you have to race, it’s the best form of training – you can’t replicate race conditions in training.

“Like the Vuelta is now the preparation race for the Worlds, De Panne is the preparation race for Flanders.”

How does the Ronde Van Vlaanderen compare to Gent-Wevelgem?

“There’s more distance for a start, this year the Ronde is 255 K; and there are more hills – 16, this year.

“And of course, the last climbs come much closer to the finish than in the Gent-Wevelgem, the Paterberg is only 13 K from Oudenaarde.

“The magic number is 200 – a race over that number of kilometres is a boy’s race.

“When it goes up to 260 K that’s when it becomes a man’s race – that extra hour-and-a-half makes all the difference.”

What’s your take on the new finishing circuit – and no Kapelmuur?

“It’s driven by commercial interests – it means they can stick the ViP’s on the Kwaremont and they’ll see the race three times.

“It makes the transport considerations easier and the ViP’s can just sit there.

“It’s increasingly becoming more about financial considerations and less about sporting ones.

“When I raced, the Kapelmuur wasn’t on the itinerary, the main road was cobbled and it was tough between the gradient and the cobbles.

“They only re-routed up the Kapelmuur when the main road was tarmaced.”

Who’s your tip for the Ronde?

“I think that Boonen and Cancellara will fight it out – but Sagan is very good and you can see that he’s ambitious.

“If Liquigas had played it differently at Sanremo then he would have won – Nibali started it but couldn’t finish it off.

“Vanmarcke is young but you don’t have to teach those Belgians anything tricks about how to win, it’s ingrained in to them from when they first race as schoolboys.

“Pozzato is too lightweight for me; he doesn’t seem to have that killer punch.”

And if you were Cav’s coach, what would you be talking about?

“His weight – he’s an amazing sprinter but he’s too heavy.

“If your job is ‘professional road racing cyclist’ then you have to be able to climb.”

Thanks go to Barry, for his time and insights.

Barry Hoban
Is Cavendish following a precise plan, as is the Team GB/Sky way?

And I received a text from Kris about our Cav article, pointing out that Vik, Ivan, Dave and the rest of us aren’t thinking properly – not along Sky lines, anyway.

What Kris means by that is made crystal clear in the Guardian piece;

“Cavendish will now prepare for the races that really matter most, the Tour and the Olympics.”

Kris has it right; Vik, Dave and all the rest of us who think that the Primavera and Ronde are the two greatest races in the world are out of tune with modern thinking.

The Tour dominates all – but with the Olympic road race being held in London as the opening event of the Games, it looks as if the early part of the reigning world champion’s season is being ridden purely to keep his legs turning over.

If he wins in London, then nothing else will matter and there’ll be knighthoods all round.

But if he doesn’t, my bet is that one day, in the future, he’ll look back on the one occasion when he could have won the Primavera with the rainbow jersey on his back and think, ‘if only…

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