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		<title>Comment on Dan Patten Blog &#8211; My First Win of the Season by Todd Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/05/17/dan-patten-blog-first-us-win/#comment-127108</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 17:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep up the good work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Giro d&#8217;Italia 2013 &#8211; Stage 6: Mola di Bari &#8211; Margherita di Savoia, 169km. Kit Car Cav. by mike carroll</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/05/09/giro-ditalia-2013-stage-6/#comment-122896</link>
		<dc:creator>mike carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 12:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

I think the new closed style helmet from Giro will catch on. Giro will produce it, market it with no alternatives and the punters will have no option but to buy it. I say this as a runner, it is getting near nigh on impossible to buy a pair of running shoes that do not totally consist of or have a blob of some &#039; zany &#039; fluo colour somewhere. All the brands are at it. It is hideous and I ain&#039;t gonna buy into it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I think the new closed style helmet from Giro will catch on. Giro will produce it, market it with no alternatives and the punters will have no option but to buy it. I say this as a runner, it is getting near nigh on impossible to buy a pair of running shoes that do not totally consist of or have a blob of some ' zany ' fluo colour somewhere. All the brands are at it. It is hideous and I ain't gonna buy into it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on David Walsh &#8211; Part 2, &#8220;My motivation will always be to protect the guy who doesn’t want to dope&#8221; by Skippy</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/04/24/david-walsh-interview2/#comment-115873</link>
		<dc:creator>Skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anto has demonstrated his Integrity by resigning after the 1st vote, he then followed through and pointed out to Cycling Ireland, that the Meeting procedures were not correct.

Leaving it to Cycling Ireland to revisit the decision rather than trumpeting, shows he has the best interests of Irish Cycling at heart.

Who better to stand against McQuaid, who has had two terms to sort out the UCI but thought &quot;SSDD&quot; was good enough. 

Time for change, and integrity (Moran) versus shambolism (McQuaid) - there is no question who will be best for Cycling Sport&#039;s Future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anto has demonstrated his Integrity by resigning after the 1st vote, he then followed through and pointed out to Cycling Ireland, that the Meeting procedures were not correct.</p>
<p>Leaving it to Cycling Ireland to revisit the decision rather than trumpeting, shows he has the best interests of Irish Cycling at heart.</p>
<p>Who better to stand against McQuaid, who has had two terms to sort out the UCI but thought "SSDD" was good enough. </p>
<p>Time for change, and integrity (Moran) versus shambolism (McQuaid) - there is no question who will be best for Cycling Sport's Future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In Memoriam, Palle Lykke by Bob Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/04/23/palle-lykke-rip/#comment-112436</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Curious as to his life after bike racing.

Those must have really been awesome years for the sixes.
I love to imagine the dark, dirty, cigar smoke filled halls with guys sweating away hour after hour yet still putting on a show for an enthusiastic crowd. Polished bikes, colorful silk jerseys, the smell of liniment , sweat, beer and smoke. Like to think there were some real battles taking place in those days as well. Need more stories of those years!
Thanks for the update!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious as to his life after bike racing.</p>
<p>Those must have really been awesome years for the sixes.<br />
I love to imagine the dark, dirty, cigar smoke filled halls with guys sweating away hour after hour yet still putting on a show for an enthusiastic crowd. Polished bikes, colorful silk jerseys, the smell of liniment , sweat, beer and smoke. Like to think there were some real battles taking place in those days as well. Need more stories of those years!<br />
Thanks for the update!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Julian Wheat &#8211; Winning French Races in the &#8217;70s, and &#8216;the Mafia&#8217; by Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/04/15/julian-wheat-interview/#comment-107337</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good read

I remember one winter Julian came out with us on a club run and his bike frame (not the Colnago) just fell apart and collapsed.  The head tube had been nailed into the headset lug, but not brazed.  Crazy

Regards

Richard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good read</p>
<p>I remember one winter Julian came out with us on a club run and his bike frame (not the Colnago) just fell apart and collapsed.  The head tube had been nailed into the headset lug, but not brazed.  Crazy</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>Comment on Julian Wheat &#8211; Winning French Races in the &#8217;70s, and &#8216;the Mafia&#8217; by david meek</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/04/15/julian-wheat-interview/#comment-107325</link>
		<dc:creator>david meek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[great article, Ed- a wee corner of history we&#039;d prob never have known otherwise...dm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article, Ed- a wee corner of history we'd prob never have known otherwise...dm</p>
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		<title>Comment on Julian Wheat &#8211; Winning French Races in the &#8217;70s, and &#8216;the Mafia&#8217; by Doug Rhoides</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/04/15/julian-wheat-interview/#comment-106578</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Rhoides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 07:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice article!

Julian (like me) was in the Oxford City Road Club in the seventies, as were his brother Barry and Mick - both also very good cyclists...

Saw Barry and Mick (and Oxford City time trial star John French) at the funeral of Ken Lansbury (Oxford City president) recently.

I remember Julian coming out with us on as club run when he was &quot;home&quot; once - I had never seen a Colnago before!

Regards

Doug]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article!</p>
<p>Julian (like me) was in the Oxford City Road Club in the seventies, as were his brother Barry and Mick - both also very good cyclists...</p>
<p>Saw Barry and Mick (and Oxford City time trial star John French) at the funeral of Ken Lansbury (Oxford City president) recently.</p>
<p>I remember Julian coming out with us on as club run when he was "home" once - I had never seen a Colnago before!</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Doug</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maurice Burton &#8211; British 20km Champion, 1974 by Doug Rhodes</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2007/02/26/maurice-burton-british-20km-champion-1974/#comment-105807</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article!

Often see Maurice at Hearn Hill - easy to forget just how mighty he was..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!</p>
<p>Often see Maurice at Hearn Hill - easy to forget just how mighty he was..</p>
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		<title>Comment on John Kennedy &#8211; Helping Simpson in Le Tour by The Velo Club Stella and John Kennedy &#124; The Drum-Up</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2007/01/22/john-kennedy-helping-simpson-in-le-tour/#comment-104936</link>
		<dc:creator>The Velo Club Stella and John Kennedy &#124; The Drum-Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Jimmy told Ed Hood in 2007 for Veloveritas, Ian Steel had won the Peace Race in 1952 &#8211; a boon for British and Scottish road racing. In [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Silvan Dillier &#8211; Winner of Le Tour de Normandie 2013 by Shorty</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/03/27/silvan-dillier-interview/#comment-97902</link>
		<dc:creator>Shorty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great to see Silvan starting to make the grade at the top level of the sport. Bodes well for the 2013 6 day season, with riders like Iljo Keisse, Niki Terpstra, Michael Mørkøv, Alex Rasmussen, Glenn O&#039;Shea, Cameron Meyer, Leigh Howard etc. all making their mark in the pro ranks on the road.

Lets hope that their teams allow them to ride the track this winter, instead of a trip to a race in a desert for a few appreciative camels, some lost Nubians and of course lets not forget the the guys who bankroll it, the Oil Sheikhs; &quot;Rock the Casbah&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see Silvan starting to make the grade at the top level of the sport. Bodes well for the 2013 6 day season, with riders like Iljo Keisse, Niki Terpstra, Michael Mørkøv, Alex Rasmussen, Glenn O'Shea, Cameron Meyer, Leigh Howard etc. all making their mark in the pro ranks on the road.</p>
<p>Lets hope that their teams allow them to ride the track this winter, instead of a trip to a race in a desert for a few appreciative camels, some lost Nubians and of course lets not forget the the guys who bankroll it, the Oil Sheikhs; "Rock the Casbah".</p>
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		<title>Comment on The BicycleWorks Season Openers, according to Lindsay Gordon by The Bicycle Works &#187; Scottish racing opening weekend</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/03/15/bw-lindsay-gordon-blog/#comment-90677</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bicycle Works &#187; Scottish racing opening weekend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] An update from Lindsay Gordon on the first races of the year for the Bicycleworks team can be found on the excellent Velo Veritas site. Read the whole article here&#8230; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] An update from Lindsay Gordon on the first races of the year for the Bicycleworks team can be found on the excellent Velo Veritas site. Read the whole article here&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The 1962 Usher Silver Tankard Road Race by Mike MacPherson</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/03/12/the-1962-usher-silver-tankard-road-race/#comment-88314</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike MacPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hard days hard men and hard times too soft now.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on The 1962 Usher Silver Tankard Road Race by Shorty</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/03/12/the-1962-usher-silver-tankard-road-race/#comment-88074</link>
		<dc:creator>Shorty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good stuff Ed ... a nice nostalgic look back through the annals of time.  Although not yet born in 62, it still makes for a good read and one can imagine...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff Ed ... a nice nostalgic look back through the annals of time.  Although not yet born in 62, it still makes for a good read and one can imagine...</p>
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		<title>Comment on Musselburgh RCC 3-Up TTT 2013 &#8211; theBicycleWorks Take the Win by Mike MacPherson</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/03/09/musselburgh-rcc-3-up-ttt-2013/#comment-86907</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike MacPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent report, so professional.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent report, so professional.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eddie Alexander &#8211; 4th in the Seoul Olympic Sprint; &#8220;I wish I knew then, what I know now&#8221; by Scottish Commonwealth Games Cycling Medals &#171; spokeydokeyblog</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2012/11/14/eddie-alexander-interview/#comment-84494</link>
		<dc:creator>Scottish Commonwealth Games Cycling Medals &#171; spokeydokeyblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] for Scotland at Meadowbank in the sprint. There&#8217;s an excellent article on him in Veloveritas HERE. Sprint legend Gary Neiwand took gold in the event. England&#8217;s Paul Curran won the road race [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for Scotland at Meadowbank in the sprint. There&#8217;s an excellent article on him in Veloveritas HERE. Sprint legend Gary Neiwand took gold in the event. England&#8217;s Paul Curran won the road race [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paul McHugh &#8211; &#8220;Big Mac&#8221;, the Show-Stopper by Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts? - Page 60 - London Fixed-gear and Single-speed</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2012/04/26/paul-mchugh-interview/#comment-82802</link>
		<dc:creator>Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts? - Page 60 - London Fixed-gear and Single-speed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] forks / chroming etc.  The only info I&#039;ve managed to dig is that it used to be ridden by this dude http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2012/04...ugh-interview/ - that&#039;s according to the old boy who sold me (Chris) it. I&#039;m not sure how true that is, because [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] forks / chroming etc.  The only info I&#039;ve managed to dig is that it used to be ridden by this dude <a href="http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2012/04" rel="nofollow">http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2012/04</a>...ugh-interview/ - that&#039;s according to the old boy who sold me (Chris) it. I&#039;m not sure how true that is, because [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Road racing, Rhododendrons and Sunday Shopping by Newbie</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/02/25/sportives-and-road-racing/#comment-81969</link>
		<dc:creator>Newbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have never done a Sportive before, nor a road race, but I have signed up form my first in April.  But I have run in various big half and full marathons, my expectation for the Sportive is that it will be similar to participation in a big running race.

I was wondering why the racing aspect and the mass participation cannot be combined.  If you look at any of the Marathon and half marathon events run by UK athletics, these seem to combine both aspects perfectly well. Those that want to win the race go off clear at the front leaving those who do it for funa nd charity to go round in their own time and with their own objectives.

The main requirement I think would be to start people in the right place on the start grid, so that the fastsest (Cat E/1) start first followed by cat 2 then 3 then 4 and the rest.  You might even start each cat with a suitable gap, almost like a handicap race, and with the use of chips, you could even place finishers within their own catagory.

I am sure somebody will have good reasons why this won&#039;t work on a bike, but just wanted to see if anything could be learnt from other sports.

John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never done a Sportive before, nor a road race, but I have signed up form my first in April.  But I have run in various big half and full marathons, my expectation for the Sportive is that it will be similar to participation in a big running race.</p>
<p>I was wondering why the racing aspect and the mass participation cannot be combined.  If you look at any of the Marathon and half marathon events run by UK athletics, these seem to combine both aspects perfectly well. Those that want to win the race go off clear at the front leaving those who do it for funa nd charity to go round in their own time and with their own objectives.</p>
<p>The main requirement I think would be to start people in the right place on the start grid, so that the fastsest (Cat E/1) start first followed by cat 2 then 3 then 4 and the rest.  You might even start each cat with a suitable gap, almost like a handicap race, and with the use of chips, you could even place finishers within their own catagory.</p>
<p>I am sure somebody will have good reasons why this won't work on a bike, but just wanted to see if anything could be learnt from other sports.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>Comment on Road racing, Rhododendrons and Sunday Shopping by Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/02/25/sportives-and-road-racing/#comment-77327</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A brilliant arguement, touching on many of the problems road racing in this country (Scotland, and possibly UK) faces.  How does the club scene compete with professional event organisers is an issue I scratch my head about, are we meant to is another?  
As pointed out, the Premier Calendar is down to just six events but at the same time there doesn&#039;t seem to be an abundance of resources spewing out of Manchester to recruit new organisers.  Meanwhile the professional led tour series is ever popular.  Is there a policy link?
Participation in the sport is up, the profile of cycling is up, we just need to embrace this and just figure out how to realise all this great potential.  The whole landscape of cycle sport as many of us know it is changing before our eyes, but without our crystal ball its hard to tell what way its heading.  Whatever happens though, sportives are clearly part of our future and the club scene is going to need to figure out how to take advantage of it before we all become redundant volunteers or worse, unwitting customers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A brilliant arguement, touching on many of the problems road racing in this country (Scotland, and possibly UK) faces.  How does the club scene compete with professional event organisers is an issue I scratch my head about, are we meant to is another?<br />
As pointed out, the Premier Calendar is down to just six events but at the same time there doesn't seem to be an abundance of resources spewing out of Manchester to recruit new organisers.  Meanwhile the professional led tour series is ever popular.  Is there a policy link?<br />
Participation in the sport is up, the profile of cycling is up, we just need to embrace this and just figure out how to realise all this great potential.  The whole landscape of cycle sport as many of us know it is changing before our eyes, but without our crystal ball its hard to tell what way its heading.  Whatever happens though, sportives are clearly part of our future and the club scene is going to need to figure out how to take advantage of it before we all become redundant volunteers or worse, unwitting customers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Road racing, Rhododendrons and Sunday Shopping by Revealing Shorts &#8211; Issue 2 &#8211; 25/02/13 &#171; spokeydokeyblog</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/02/25/sportives-and-road-racing/#comment-77312</link>
		<dc:creator>Revealing Shorts &#8211; Issue 2 &#8211; 25/02/13 &#171; spokeydokeyblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] about this in previous postings, so I know where he&#8217;s coming from. You can read the article HERE at the excellent Veloveritas [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about this in previous postings, so I know where he&#8217;s coming from. You can read the article HERE at the excellent Veloveritas [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Road racing, Rhododendrons and Sunday Shopping by Miguel</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/02/25/sportives-and-road-racing/#comment-77189</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting article. I am a member of a club in Essex.

I took up road cycling in 2011 and despite wrecking my entry level bike in an accident (not my fault) and some cuts and bruises I kept going, got myself a carbon bike last year and now also have a winter trainer too.

Last year I joined my club in February. It&#039;s quite a large club by today&#039;s standards, but not that big either (120 members give or take). 

I joined the fast 9am group ride and on my first ride I got dropped by the slower echelon of our group including an 82 year old man. I happened to be 30 years old at the time! With training and hard work, I got to the point where I was sitting at the front of the group on club rides and even winning &quot;races&quot; back to the club house along our usual finishing route. Mind you that was on the Sundays when the Cat 4 riders were not racing, otherwise I&#039;d place in the top 3/4. 

I had also done a number of time trials through the season, which I enjoyed thoroughly and beat my PB each time, as I would have expected.

I finished the season very well and had a lot of confidence that if I could have a good winter of training, then perhaps I could step up to Cat 4. Alternatively I would focus on time trialling.

When I thought about it, I came to the realisation that to race on any regular basis I would have to either go to Hogg Hill or Dunton as open road races locally are too few and far between (and standards also a bit out of reach for me). 

Races at both of these venues have quite large fields and crashes on the final lap are de rigeur. My club president had an accident at Dunton mid-season 2012 and fractured his skull and broke ribs. 

So when I thought about it, as someone with a young son, I concluded that if I was going to push myself it would have to be in TT because it just wasn&#039;t worth the danger to myself and the cost of bike replacements.

A greater number of open road races, especially for Cat 4 riders would be enormously welcome in the UK. A man can only wear a pointy hat so many times :-)

MD

PS regarding sportives, I&#039;ve never seen much press attention to sportives referring to them as being competitive or encouraging that sort of behaviour. In general I am supportive of sportives as they provide a challenge to cyclists of all abilities, albeit in certain areas the challenge is greater than others. I can easily do 60 miles in an Essex sportive and not climb more than 3,500 feet, which isn&#039;t exactly the &quot;Fred&quot; is it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. I am a member of a club in Essex.</p>
<p>I took up road cycling in 2011 and despite wrecking my entry level bike in an accident (not my fault) and some cuts and bruises I kept going, got myself a carbon bike last year and now also have a winter trainer too.</p>
<p>Last year I joined my club in February. It's quite a large club by today's standards, but not that big either (120 members give or take). </p>
<p>I joined the fast 9am group ride and on my first ride I got dropped by the slower echelon of our group including an 82 year old man. I happened to be 30 years old at the time! With training and hard work, I got to the point where I was sitting at the front of the group on club rides and even winning "races" back to the club house along our usual finishing route. Mind you that was on the Sundays when the Cat 4 riders were not racing, otherwise I'd place in the top 3/4. </p>
<p>I had also done a number of time trials through the season, which I enjoyed thoroughly and beat my PB each time, as I would have expected.</p>
<p>I finished the season very well and had a lot of confidence that if I could have a good winter of training, then perhaps I could step up to Cat 4. Alternatively I would focus on time trialling.</p>
<p>When I thought about it, I came to the realisation that to race on any regular basis I would have to either go to Hogg Hill or Dunton as open road races locally are too few and far between (and standards also a bit out of reach for me). </p>
<p>Races at both of these venues have quite large fields and crashes on the final lap are de rigeur. My club president had an accident at Dunton mid-season 2012 and fractured his skull and broke ribs. </p>
<p>So when I thought about it, as someone with a young son, I concluded that if I was going to push myself it would have to be in TT because it just wasn't worth the danger to myself and the cost of bike replacements.</p>
<p>A greater number of open road races, especially for Cat 4 riders would be enormously welcome in the UK. A man can only wear a pointy hat so many times <img src='http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>MD</p>
<p>PS regarding sportives, I've never seen much press attention to sportives referring to them as being competitive or encouraging that sort of behaviour. In general I am supportive of sportives as they provide a challenge to cyclists of all abilities, albeit in certain areas the challenge is greater than others. I can easily do 60 miles in an Essex sportive and not climb more than 3,500 feet, which isn't exactly the "Fred" is it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Road racing, Rhododendrons and Sunday Shopping by fionnghal</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/02/25/sportives-and-road-racing/#comment-77070</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What you say is correct, David. Up to a point. And in this response I am taking on board your comments about not knocking sportive. Sportives are popular now partly because a significant number are done for charity and in that we should not knock them. But part of their appeal is also because they do not require riders to have the heads down/tail up approach and as you rightly say, they provide an entry into some sort of competition that does not need actually to be competitive. Most of the many sportives I have been on offer multiple routes to accommodate rider levels. Most also go to great pains to point out that they are not races. Sadly, there are those who will and do treat them as competitive flat out races. But this is because of who they (those individual competitors) are rather than what the ride is. Those same people will make their daily commute to work competitive - it&#039;s in their nature. I will champion well-organised sportives because I feel strongly that they do offer people like me (rewind to the three years back beginner cyclist version) an opportunity to chart progress in an environment where, as long as I am abiding by safety rules, I am getting an opportunity to develop myself as a rider in the comfort of knowing I am not getting in anyone&#039;s way.

Fast forward to the current aspiring road racer version of me:  The idea that anyone can road race simply by dint of applying for and getting a BC race licence with no provisions on it for previous experience is anathema to me. Do people go straight to racing because of extreme confidence, extreme arrogance or because they have had some sort of previous &quot;training&quot;?   The answer, I would argue is that those riders have mostly gleaned their skills through organised club group riding.  This is where in my opinion the gap between sportive and road race widens. The only people I have ever seen riding as a group in a sportive are seasoned club riders, and the place they have learned to ride as a group is not through a sportive but at that club. Add to that that there are only a few sportives where clubs enter - mostly I suspect as those ones have more kudos.  The vast majority of riders on sportives are riding solo or in a very small unorganised (i.e. not  group-riding) ensemble.  I would suggest that the two aspects are always going to be fairly unconnected as they  have different appeal.  Sportives will never be a breeding ground for road racers. They may provide inspiration to go to road racing for a few folk but in general they are too social ride orientated.   

So can there ever be a proper link from one to the other? More to the point should there be?  I am only now gaining confidence to enter road races. I&#039;m a wee middle-aged wumman who is never going to win anything but I do have a competitive itch that sportives don&#039;t scratch.  BUT, to get the skills even at a basic level that have made me feel now ready to compete, I have augmented my club riding experiences by attending as many coaching sessions and schools as I can (e.g Scott Contessa). Without these I wouldn&#039;t have considered road racing.  And this is where the problem for road racing lies - there are very few opportunities to do this sort of &quot;apprenticeship&quot;.  I am lucky in that women are currently being targeted. Are there similar opportunities for men or youths that are aimed at the beginner end rather than at those who already possess a good set of skills? I cant find any. It seems the only way into competitive road racing is through, erm, competitive road racing.  Surely that is where the problem lies?  

I suspect we are actually pretty much saying the same thing here as the real issue lies in how we can achieve getting the profile of road racing up. Part of that is taking it out of the arena of appearing only in the specialist cycling press as that is preaching to the already converted. Sadly our local and national press are too soccer-obsessed to devote many column inches to non-professional cycling. That can only be changed by a lot of pressure at local level which hopefully will filter up at some point. That means getting articles such as yours David into the national press as well as in &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;VeloVeritas&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.   

It will take a lot of pushing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you say is correct, David. Up to a point. And in this response I am taking on board your comments about not knocking sportive. Sportives are popular now partly because a significant number are done for charity and in that we should not knock them. But part of their appeal is also because they do not require riders to have the heads down/tail up approach and as you rightly say, they provide an entry into some sort of competition that does not need actually to be competitive. Most of the many sportives I have been on offer multiple routes to accommodate rider levels. Most also go to great pains to point out that they are not races. Sadly, there are those who will and do treat them as competitive flat out races. But this is because of who they (those individual competitors) are rather than what the ride is. Those same people will make their daily commute to work competitive - it's in their nature. I will champion well-organised sportives because I feel strongly that they do offer people like me (rewind to the three years back beginner cyclist version) an opportunity to chart progress in an environment where, as long as I am abiding by safety rules, I am getting an opportunity to develop myself as a rider in the comfort of knowing I am not getting in anyone's way.</p>
<p>Fast forward to the current aspiring road racer version of me:  The idea that anyone can road race simply by dint of applying for and getting a BC race licence with no provisions on it for previous experience is anathema to me. Do people go straight to racing because of extreme confidence, extreme arrogance or because they have had some sort of previous "training"?   The answer, I would argue is that those riders have mostly gleaned their skills through organised club group riding.  This is where in my opinion the gap between sportive and road race widens. The only people I have ever seen riding as a group in a sportive are seasoned club riders, and the place they have learned to ride as a group is not through a sportive but at that club. Add to that that there are only a few sportives where clubs enter - mostly I suspect as those ones have more kudos.  The vast majority of riders on sportives are riding solo or in a very small unorganised (i.e. not  group-riding) ensemble.  I would suggest that the two aspects are always going to be fairly unconnected as they  have different appeal.  Sportives will never be a breeding ground for road racers. They may provide inspiration to go to road racing for a few folk but in general they are too social ride orientated.   </p>
<p>So can there ever be a proper link from one to the other? More to the point should there be?  I am only now gaining confidence to enter road races. I'm a wee middle-aged wumman who is never going to win anything but I do have a competitive itch that sportives don't scratch.  BUT, to get the skills even at a basic level that have made me feel now ready to compete, I have augmented my club riding experiences by attending as many coaching sessions and schools as I can (e.g Scott Contessa). Without these I wouldn't have considered road racing.  And this is where the problem for road racing lies - there are very few opportunities to do this sort of "apprenticeship".  I am lucky in that women are currently being targeted. Are there similar opportunities for men or youths that are aimed at the beginner end rather than at those who already possess a good set of skills? I cant find any. It seems the only way into competitive road racing is through, erm, competitive road racing.  Surely that is where the problem lies?  </p>
<p>I suspect we are actually pretty much saying the same thing here as the real issue lies in how we can achieve getting the profile of road racing up. Part of that is taking it out of the arena of appearing only in the specialist cycling press as that is preaching to the already converted. Sadly our local and national press are too soccer-obsessed to devote many column inches to non-professional cycling. That can only be changed by a lot of pressure at local level which hopefully will filter up at some point. That means getting articles such as yours David into the national press as well as in <strong><em>VeloVeritas</em></strong>.   </p>
<p>It will take a lot of pushing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Road racing, Rhododendrons and Sunday Shopping by vendeeu</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/02/25/sportives-and-road-racing/#comment-77038</link>
		<dc:creator>vendeeu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spot on David,all we hear is about British Cyclings successes on the Road and Track internationally while our domestic series the Premier Calendar is dying on its feet. And British Cycling is getting a Governing Body of the Year award..you couldnt make it up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on David,all we hear is about British Cyclings successes on the Road and Track internationally while our domestic series the Premier Calendar is dying on its feet. And British Cycling is getting a Governing Body of the Year award..you couldnt make it up</p>
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		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2012/11/14/eddie-alexander-interview/#comment-70109</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon WS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eddie - I&#039;ve a set of your rollers in my garage from when I was in Clach. CC. Don&#039;t know how it came about that they are still in my possession but you&#039;re welcome to them...

Your achievements were phenomenal given the levels of support and equipment!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie - I've a set of your rollers in my garage from when I was in Clach. CC. Don't know how it came about that they are still in my possession but you're welcome to them...</p>
<p>Your achievements were phenomenal given the levels of support and equipment!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Revolution Track Meeting #40 &#8211; Glasgow by Alan Haycox</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/02/02/revolution40-glasgow/#comment-69862</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Haycox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice report and photographs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice report and photographs.</p>
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		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2010/10/14/jimmy-rae-national-tour-winner/#comment-67726</link>
		<dc:creator>What is an &#8216;Oppy Cap&#8217;? &#124; The Drum-Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] since I read an interview with Jimmy Rae by Ed Hood on Veloveritas I have wondered what the phrase &#8216;oppy cap&#8217; meant. I took this [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] since I read an interview with Jimmy Rae by Ed Hood on Veloveritas I have wondered what the phrase &#8216;oppy cap&#8217; meant. I took this [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hannah Walker &#8211; Matrix Fitness Racing&#8217;s Young Track Star by Yvo HH</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/01/29/hannah-walker-interview/#comment-66922</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvo HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We were fortunate enough to be at the Velodrome on Golden Nacht and cheered Hannah on her way. Between we probably made up the entire British contingent!  A great night and an event I had not been to see since the last London 6 with Hugh Porter, Tony Gowland and a host of greats from that era. Well done Hannah and based on your performance in Berlin you&#039;ll go far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were fortunate enough to be at the Velodrome on Golden Nacht and cheered Hannah on her way. Between we probably made up the entire British contingent!  A great night and an event I had not been to see since the last London 6 with Hugh Porter, Tony Gowland and a host of greats from that era. Well done Hannah and based on your performance in Berlin you'll go far.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A Peiper&#8217;s Tale&#8221; by Allan Peiper by Martin Williamson</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2006/08/25/a-peipers-tale-by-allan-peiper/#comment-63353</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Pete, thanks for commenting. 

Allan sounds like a great person, if guys like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/01/15/marco-pinotti-interview-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marco Pinotti&lt;/a&gt; are anything to go by:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pete, thanks for commenting. </p>
<p>Allan sounds like a great person, if guys like <a href="http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/01/15/marco-pinotti-interview-2/" rel="nofollow">Marco Pinotti</a> are anything to go by:</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A Peiper&#8217;s Tale&#8221; by Allan Peiper by Peter Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am supprised that after all this time there are no comments. Allan was a junior of very strong resolve and at the first bike race, Wierler Gala Aalter Lottenehule, I saw when I went to work in Belgium he dominated.

After reading his book I saw that he was to be a good team manager as he had feelings.

He did not need to be hard on the riders. He led by example like his mate Sean Yates. He came back from illness in Australia to join ACBB and just went from there.

Many of the people mentioned in the book I heard of from others in the Gent area. 

One was Mike Tanks.

On day in Zomergem there was a dark Turk-like man riding around the cafe&#039;s on a black Geoffrey Butler bike with chrome forks. He said this was Tank&#039;s bike. You know he had a Nieuwlingen (schoolboy), Junior and Senior licence all at the same time.

It is not the same now with all the rich lads with their carbon and aluminum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am supprised that after all this time there are no comments. Allan was a junior of very strong resolve and at the first bike race, Wierler Gala Aalter Lottenehule, I saw when I went to work in Belgium he dominated.</p>
<p>After reading his book I saw that he was to be a good team manager as he had feelings.</p>
<p>He did not need to be hard on the riders. He led by example like his mate Sean Yates. He came back from illness in Australia to join ACBB and just went from there.</p>
<p>Many of the people mentioned in the book I heard of from others in the Gent area. </p>
<p>One was Mike Tanks.</p>
<p>On day in Zomergem there was a dark Turk-like man riding around the cafe's on a black Geoffrey Butler bike with chrome forks. He said this was Tank's bike. You know he had a Nieuwlingen (schoolboy), Junior and Senior licence all at the same time.</p>
<p>It is not the same now with all the rich lads with their carbon and aluminum.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Emile Abraham &#8211; Trinidad &amp; Tobago&#8217;s Multi Champion by Michael Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2013/01/21/emile-abraham-interview/#comment-62662</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Emile has always been a great motivator in the Trinidad and Tobago cycling scene. 

Along with his father Anthony and cousin Jeff they have made a huge contribution to the development of local cycling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emile has always been a great motivator in the Trinidad and Tobago cycling scene. </p>
<p>Along with his father Anthony and cousin Jeff they have made a huge contribution to the development of local cycling.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Schindler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is so exciting! My son has been t1 for a couple years. He is 15. Team type 1 is such an inspiration to us. Rock on!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so exciting! My son has been t1 for a couple years. He is 15. Team type 1 is such an inspiration to us. Rock on!</p>
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